June 25 - July 2, Omaha, Nebraska
The US trials are finally here. Coming 114 days after Britain had their first selection meet for the Olympics, the US are hopefully saving the best for last.
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Trials Discussion with David Rieder
1am, agh! Why does Nebraska have to be that far west...
ReplyDeleteTry Europe ;)
DeleteBut we will be online here, can't wait ;)
Is the link correct I can't get it to work, any tips?
ReplyDeleteIt worked just fine for me. Sorry, no tips.
ReplyDeleteSome overzealous anti-virus program would block the link.
ReplyDeleteI can open it from one laptop, but not from a different laptop.
400 ims as expected.
ReplyDelete400 free - weak.
100 fly Dana good work.
100 Bre M - gay.
400 im was overhyped, Lochte nowhere near the WR and Phelps basically failed (yahoo will agree on this).
DeleteVollmer was decent in the fly but not fit enough to maintain her pace in the closing stretches. Coughlin disappointing, let's hope for a better showing in the back tomorrow.
400 free times were... well, face it, cringe-inducing... this isn't 1988 folks!
Beisel did good but will need to improve her fly to hold off the likes of Rice. Not impressed by Leverenz's hyped breast skills either as she could only gain about a sec and a half on Beisel there.
Hansen did surprise with his sub minute, rest of field didn't show they can compete with the rest of the world at all.
400 IM, I agree. Expect MP to win it in London.
Delete400 Free, very weak, will not final in London. But PVK may not be tapered.
100 Fly, Dana looks very strong, and will take Gold/Silver in London. But the rest... not so strong, but that was only semis.
100 Breast, awesome, WB Brendan, anything but gay.
gay ? Hansen ? u talking shit dude ......be on the positive side of life !
DeleteGay is the new black don't you know? Might get aspecial visit to the WH.
Deletewhat does "100 Bre M - gay" mean?
ReplyDeleteIt means men doing breastroke is gay.
DeleteAh.. I didn't know that.. lol
DeleteWas expecting Beisel to be around 4.30high.. Stephanie Rice will be 4.31 mid at least in London and will be Beisel's toughest competitor... She didnt have a good preparation for trials and she still managed 4.33 in March... I think the women's 400IM will be a a contest between Rice, Beisel , Miley and maybe Hosszu who all have a 4.31 in them
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you. I thought Beisel was going to swim 4:30 in Omaha.
DeleteAnd I think Rice can definitely do a 4:31, if not 4:30
A little more negativity here than I think is warranted. Beisel was yards ahead by the second fifty of free, she didn't need to hammer it home. She was still faster than she was in Shanghai. I think sub 4:30 is highly likely for Beisel in London, she still has tons of upside. Lochte basically shut it down with 15 meters to go and coasted into the wall. He could have pretty easily dropped a second right there. Also, no one else in the world is even in the frame in this event, either he or Phelps will win the gold in London. Lastly, most of the truly dominant swimmers like Phelps, Lochte and Beisel are training to peak in London, not Omaha. This is particularly true of the Florida contingent. IMO, the only truly disappointing event from last night was the men's 400. 3:47 just isn't going to cut it.
ReplyDeleteWhat I'm inetersted in seeing tonight: 1. Is Franklin sick? How's she feeling? 2. Can Vollmer break 56 and the WR? She seems to have plateaued at 56 mid for about a year, can she have a breakthrough swim and stamp her name as the favorite in London? 3. Who's going to take the second berth in the mens 100 breast? Will both swimmers be under a minute? dark horse: Kevin Cordes. 4. Will Berens be 1:45 in semis? I'd love to see him up with the leaders.
One prediction: Schmitt's 400 is going to be a lot faster than people are expecting. IMO, she's going to drop a very fast time.
2nite's 100fly final will give a good indication of where Natalie Coughlin is. IMO she is holding back and saving the best for finals. Thats what experienced athletes do. Even her 1.00.71 in the heats of the 100back surprisingly is her best this year.. I'm expecting a 59high semi (after 100fly final) and a sub 59.00 in the final will book her a ticket 2 defend her title...
ReplyDeleteExpecting a textile best from Missy in either the 100back semi tonight or the final 2mro... She's very fluent in the water...
ReplyDeleteSo far the only new name is Clare O 'donahue. There is no one born i the 90s in the 200 free finals.
ReplyDelete100br m - old gays still got it.
Natalie coughlin, is it the end of an era?
ReplyDeletecan anyone find video replays of the races at trials?
ReplyDeleteSearch for something like this:
Delete"2012.US.Olympics.Trials.Swimming.Finals.Day.Three.2012.06.27.HDTV.x264-2HD"
I've found some on youtube.
ReplyDeleteThere's this brazilian guy who has uploaded few races before they were taken out by overzealous nazi nbc.
His youtube's handle is: swimitup
Americans have been surprisingly SLOOOOW at their trials so far. Could this be the dawn of a bright new era in swimming? One where Australia regains the number 1 spot with a new generation giving us the upper hand once again, led by Magnussen & Roberts? London's going to be a historic turning point, I'm so excited!
ReplyDeleteI doubt that.
DeleteI think the Aussies will do ok, but I still think the US will be the number 1 team by a long shot. Thinking about it today I can't think of too many races Phelps or Lochte will lose.
I think a lot of the American swimmers (especially the older ones) are peaking for the Olympics and not trials.
Vollmer and Franklin are swimming sooooo well that the Aussie women will have a tought time.
Woke up this morning, checked the results and had a good laugh over my cuppa :)
DeleteIf the fastest American to represent his country can't even get close to going a sub-47, and the next fastest after him's at a weak 48.46 (Jonesy), with the rest of their relay in the upper 48 range.. why, the Aussies won't even have to field the Missile, the Rocket's presence alone will be more than sufficient to see off the Americans..
I'd imagine the straping Frenchies are already slapping each other's chests (or whatever they do there, I guess that sort of behaviour would be more in line with Cielo's!) in gleeful celebration of another eagerly anticipated sweet revenge..
At this point I'm banking on the lads over in Moscow to come in just behind AUS & then FRA in the 4x100 free.. Heck even Cielo and his mates have a chance of beating their neighbour to the north at this point..
I have been left a little flat I must admit. My expectations have been met in all events, Schmitt, Lochte, Phelps, Vollmer did what was expected, usually the US trials see HUGE times, way ahead of the rest...but It is not really the case. Also Vollmer, slight criticism....She seems to always be as fast or faster in heats/semis than finals....Dont want that habit.
ReplyDeleteStill the US is top dog, but not as impressive as I thought it would be so far. I predicted Franklin/Bootsma in Jan of last year to get Coughlin on the 100bk and faced a onslaught...might happen afterall...not counting on it just yet though :)
What is apparent here is that doubling up swimmers have had a fairly easy time . That is not going to happen i the olympics.
ReplyDeleteMissy will not get away with a 1.57 high 200 . Phelps is a stronger bet in the 200 fly than the 200 free.
The womens 200 is not deep though 2@155s will close the 800 relay.
Them men's 200 will give France a hope.
And for Soni - she has to fight to get the relay spot now.
Well let the Americans have their (brief) giddy moment here ;)
DeleteWill make it all that more fun when, in less than a month's time, they with all their hype & arrogance will be brought crashing to the ground hard as they come up against the big boys & girls on the international stage!
And you're absolutely spot on, Missy won't get away with a 1.57 high in the 200 semis when it comes to London. If she repeats her strategy from trials there, she could well see herself being shut out of the final 8!
But if she expends too much energy to ensure a spot in the 200 finals, she can kiss goodbye to any reasonable chances of making the podium in the 100 back...
I also see Soni losing confidence for the first time after her defeat tonight, she will no longer be a sure bet for either of her individual events in London. And as you pointed out, her relay spot in the medley is now in some serious jeopardy.
Well I am not being anti American -Matt Grevers did a blinder .
DeleteYes the w 200 was very slow at number 4-8. I Am not all that certain Missy was taking it that easy for she ended up making it by only .4 & could see Schmitt way ahead.
Yes interesting to see if Soni's fast stroke holds up under pressure now. I would sense blood in the water if I were a competitor.
Wow, what's with all the anti-American sentiments here?????
DeleteWhere's the Olympic spirit folks...
Let's all enjoy these races and appreciate the fine performances --regardless of the nationality involved.
As always after US O Trials, the WR are inflated, however this list does give the reasons why some of the Americans are somewhat giddy right now - per SwimNews' WR rankings going into London:
DeleteW 100 Fly- Vollmer #1, Donahue #6
W 100 Back - Franklin #1, Bootsma #4
W 100 Breast- Soni #1, Larson #2
W 400 IM- Beisel #1, Leverenz #6
W 400 Free- Schmitt #3, Sutton #5
M 400 IM- Lochte #1, Phelps #2
M 100 Back- Grevers #1, Thoman #3
M 100 Breast- Hansen #4
M 200 Free- Phelps #2, Lochte #3
Again, OVER-INFLATED rankings always occur for each nation after their selection meet...but their are many opportunities to change that in London.
On a sentimental note, I hope to see Natalie swim one last time (even if it's a relay)...her run appears to be over and it would be a shame if her last race be on Saturday in Omaha. She has composed herself well with the international communities over these past 10 years.
I am not sure Kukors is in top form here.
ReplyDeleteAgain 2.12s will not cut in in London s/fs . I would want to be trying out a 2.10 low semis if I was targeting gold. Pelton must sense he has a chance. Ariana never caught Caitlin at any stage . It would be a cool cat that let a usurper rule the semis.
Pelton looked really good. Based on todays swims it wouldn't be an upset if Kukor ended up 3rd
ReplyDeleteSo pleased that the women's 100 breast in London will no longer be a foregone conclusion. That was easily the most predictable gold medal, until now. Next in line for dead certs... probably Phelps in the 200 fly and Magnussen in the 100 free?
ReplyDeleteOne thing Franklin needs is to be as knowleagable as possible on what will be required to make finals in london. In the 200free she'l need a 1.57low at least 2 make the final and she should be able to swim 58.5 100back afterwards. I'm sure she'l be workin on that in the next 4weeks.
ReplyDeleteMatt Grevers is a beast. No more analysis needed.
ReplyDeleteNow Missy Franklin on the other hand I think has a problem as 58.85 could well be beaten come London and she will have to exert herself more than she did in the 200 semi final here in London, the cut on paper should be get under 1.57 and you're in.....that poll above alone lists 8 swimmers we expect to swim 1.55 but of course not all of them will....then you have to add the Chinese, Hungarians, Brits or Jardin from Canada and suddenly there are a big crop of women knocking on the door of 1.56. Gonna be tough.
Yes I think 1.56.5 might be the cut I would be trying to do if I were so lucky.
DeleteThe 400 girls will be tired in the heats & vulnerable but spark up PM. Missy also has the semis the evening prior & be a bit off also. Sjoestrom might be the freshest & very likely to take it out very fast. There is no way swimmers will be able to hang back ni that atmosphere.
I expect to see a few top timers fail to advance.
Yes I was right. Missy was not coasting in that semi f. Schmitt was way ahead then & the same distance ahead tonight & that a 1.56.5 semi would be a hurdle in the Olys for Missy. She is after all not a mid distance swimmer who can back up.
DeleteThe Australian girls will have added up their times to find they theoretically have a .6 advantage!
After their poor showing tonight (other than Schmitt's world class time), the American women look to be extremely shaky and displaying a surprising lack of depth.
DeleteEven their superstar was terribly slow, Franklin was obviously giving it all she had in full tapered mode, no heats or any other swims today to provide an excuse - yet, that uninspiring time of hers will not final at all come London!
The pedestrian time from their other hope, Vollmer, combined with the inexperience and less than admirable performance of the new American relay members, surely now catapults Australia up to the top as overwhelming favourites. In fact, the Chinese girls have a solid chance of silver...
Australia, USA and France for the 800 Free relay medals. France have been overlooked but with Muffat (serial relay underperformer) Balmy (super relay swimmer) Etienne (inconsistent, Euros taper might worry her)Bonnet and Manaudou to pick from....quite a team. In short bronze is very open as China, France, Hungary, Great britain and Canada will all look at their teams and say if one lady can swim out of her skin, we are right there.
DeleteLive Video Stream not working :(
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone have another link?
it worked for me.
Deletego for stream 2.
It worked just fine for me the first two days, but not anymore :(
DeleteWill Missy Franklin swim the individual 200 free at Olympics, considering it may affect her 100 back final? I wouldn't....1.56.7 wont medal and even 1.55.0 is no certainty of a podium
ReplyDeleteIf Missy's smart and doesn't get too greedy or buy into all the hype surrounding her...yes she should drop BOTH of the frees as she doesn't have a real chance against the Europeans. Her strength is in the backs, where she should come away with 2 medals IF she isn't naive enough to try to tackle all 4 individual events.
DeleteUnfortunately for us, NBC wants a female Phelps for London, so I fear another Hoff debacle in the works for her, which is such a pity as she can be really good if she only learns to specialize instead of taking on too much to handle.
Hoff never recovered from the 800 ib Beijing. Unfortunately she went pro & does not even have a college swim career to compensate . Nothing .
DeleteMissy made the right decision .
Anonymous is correct. Missy needs to go for the relays and the back events, the European ladies have moved the freestyle on too much for Missy to get gold or possibly even medal. I fear she will take on everything and I suspect her time in the US trials final would just about scrape her into the 200fr final. Wel'll soon see.
DeleteWhich of the myriads of Anonymous posters are you referring to, Jack? ;-)
DeleteYou're right of course, the way the Euro grrls have taken the frees to another level altogether has really shut the doors to the medals stand -- you essentialy have to be focussing exclusively on the sprints or just a couple of races in that stroke to stand a chance, pure talent alone isn't good enough anymore.
This isn't a reflection in any way on Missy's ability, she's very talented -- but not Supergirl! Yanks still have Schmitt to contest the gold w/Muffat & Pellegrini in the 200fr, you know...
With more development in her technique and fuller realisation of her fab potential, it may make sense for Franklin to accept the challenges of a multi event schedule replete with doubles or even triples when accounting for relays...in Rio, that is. London is too soon for her in this dept.
For now, be humble and thankful that you have been given the opportunity to vye for 5 medals in this, your first, Olympics, with a good chance of securing gold in 3 of them (200bk, 400medley relay, possibly 100bk), along with bronze or silver in the other 2 relays.
Looks to me Missy's fr have been a bit off all season long and now at trials. Dont know if she's been concentrating more on the bks or what in 2012. One theory gaining some creedence is that she thrives best on relays, so could well explain her inability to get anywhere close to that 1:55 flat from Shanghai (her light schedule then was also a factor).
DeleteHer 100 prelims from this morning seems to suggest she'll hit an upper ceiling in the mid to upper 53s at best tomorrow, which might not be enough to get an individual swim in London based on how strong Dana & Allison have looked, with Jessica hovering, aiming to redeem herself for 2008 after being shut out of the 100 br earlier
Way lousy 100 free guys!
ReplyDeleteExcellent Allison -the rest meh.
W 200Im. Not very sharp . That 2 Gators missed an event that was hyped up but in reality there for the taking shows me they WERE tapered. They would have known Kukors was not in top form - word would have gotten out in Florida.
M200 fly - not impressive . Phelps would have liked a better farewell time on US soil. As for taper -he is as much as Allison & that is pretty much yes.
IMO Missy's swim in the 200free (1.56.7) was very strategic and enough 2 make the team. It wasnt worth it to battle with Schmitt for the top spot..if she decides to swim 200free in london, she'l win a medal at least.. 58.85 100back will be almost enough for gold... Dont see Seebohm, Terakawa, Zueva et.al going better than 58.9
ReplyDeleteOk she turned .5 ahead of Vollmer at 150 which is handy but who would not be worried Dana could come back? Missy was maxxed out.
DeleteRealistically speaking, Missy may win up to 3golds (100back, 200back and one relay,if not 2 400medley/800free)... The 100/200free are a hard ask. Minor medals will be a bonus
ReplyDeleteRealistically speaking, Missy may win up to 3golds (100back, 200back and one relay,if not 2 400medley/800free)... The 100/200free are a hard ask. Minor medals will be a bonus
ReplyDeleteConcur 100%!
DeleteMissy Franklin is not even fully tapered for this meet and she's posting great times. Her races are well controlled and she's the red hot favourite in the back events. If she decides to enter the 200free you'l have to favour her for the gold. Expecting Missy to go 52.8-53.1 100free. Hope coughlin will make the team too...
ReplyDeleteMissy Franklin is not even fully tapered for this meet and she's posting great times. Her races are well controlled and she's the red hot favourite in the back events. If she decides to enter the 200free you'l have to favour her for the gold. Expecting Missy to go 52.8-53.1 100free. Hope coughlin will make the team too... In the 200back Missy can easily dip under 2.06.00. She need not exert herself too much and save her best for london.. Unlikely for Pelton/Beisel be even dip under 2.07 200back @ ths meet
ReplyDelete"Missy Franklin is not even fully tapered" -> wishful thinking & armchair speculation on a fan's part here, methinks :) Only a Phelps or possibly Lochte can afford to not be at full taper & readiness at this most intensive of national trials where nothing is guaranteed (example Soni in the 100 Breast).
Delete"If she decides to enter the 200free you'l have to favour her for the gold." -> only if you're a hardcore fan who refuses to be openminded and consider all the facts & stats! Schmitt, Muffat & Pellegrini might have a problem with your bold statement there...
"Hope coughlin will make the team" -> not going to happen, especially seeing how she's been swimming at this meet. Natalie's had her days in the spotlight, and will always be remembered for her contribution to the sport. But now let's close the book on this part of history, and move on as it's time for someone else.
I said the following before trials, and still stand by it...
ReplyDeleteDavid Rieder
What people can't seem to agree on is how much faster she's gotten (Franklin). The way I look at it, she hasn't been racing so much this year and focused more on training. For that reason, I expect another lights-out performance just like we saw at the Worlds. I expect to be shocked again.
Tom Willdridge
I'm expecting fast, but not lights-out swims at Trials... I do expect her to get faster from Trials to Olympics given her age and her ability to get up for her races on the biggest stage
I agree with tom.this type of performance was what i was expecting from her, though it was what i knew id be nervous to see. Missy has been this fast inseason within the last six months.... To think she isnt still a 1:54 swimmer is to have been somewhat subjective in the first place
ReplyDeleteWe will see what unfolds in london, but i will be very disappointed if she doesnt swim this individually. A female phelps would.
Keep up this stuff & she will be on the psych's couch with another young great (former ) hope.
DeleteThe 200back will give a good indication of what we can expect from Missy.. The 2.04.8WR by Coventry should be an easy target who Missy and most likely the only WR of these trials. The 2nd spot for women's 200back is going 2 be fight between Pelton and Beisel though Pelton will want it more. It will be interesting to see if anyone outside Missy Franklin will break 2.07 in the 200back. (only Hocking and Zueva have done so ths yr). Dont know if Lochte and Phelps will go after the 200IM record. Anythn sub 1.55 by both men will be great.
ReplyDeletePredictions for the 400 FR Relays in London:
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AUS (by a wide margin)
RUS (could flip flop w/FRA)
FRA
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USA
BRA (might even be good for 4th)
RSA
LOL at all the American fans who persist in their fantasies of a win for Team USA (SwimSwam posts):
"Phelps leads off in 47.75, Then I think Grevers will be on the relay with a great split of 47.4-47.7 then I think our third leg whoever it is goes a 48.0 and Adrian splits a 47.1. Our relay always has great relay swimmers and I honestly think we will battle the Aussies."
"The French? Well, Rowdy nailed it once before. Best on paper and on the blocks with a lot of swagger in 2008, 2009 and again in 2011…all with times a few months stale from the selection meet with a full training cycle."
"Hey…we have seen miracles before in relays…have you forgotten 2008 already? We were not supposed to win that one either."
"…and again in 2009 which let to Rowdy’s famous utterance that France just willed it to not happen after being so great on paper. TWICE."
"The US is going to catch the world by surprise in the 400FR, no doubt."
For the Women:
NED (by a wide margin)
AUS
CHN or GER (AUS will have a comfortable lead)
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USA (a slight chance of Bronze if Franklin & Schmitt delivers)
GBR (Home advantage)
Not a very educated prediction, PJ.
DeleteThe chinese ladies have lost Li Zhesi (54.4 lead off in Shanghai) and after Tang Yi there is little to pick from, Shijia Wang could step up or Pang Jiaying could return to form but it is all guesswork. Note only one Chinese woman has swum sub 55 in 2012, Tany Yi. I expect the Chinese to step up as usual but the normal at least have a bunch of 54s.
Germany quite bluntly got lucky in 2011. The Australian ladies did not swim well and Vitting swum the race of her life. Now Vittings likely slower split will be levelled out by a better swim from Steffen. Still with the top 4 times of 53.6, 54.4, 54.9 & 55.0.
The British have a top 4 of 53.5, 54.0, 54.7 & 54.9 with a 55.0 back-up. Add this home team support we talk about and that puts them clearly ahead of both Germany and China, on paper at least.
The way I see it is....
1. The Netherlands
2. Australia
3. United States
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4. Great Britain
5. Germany
6. China
7. Sweden
8. Canada
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9. Japan
10. Denmark
Sweden could be the dark horses (As Britain have deservedly earned attention lately) with Sjoestroem (53.2), Alshammar(54.4), Coleman (55.0) and Marko-Varga(55.1)/Fagundez(55.4) but they always tend to fail to pass the qualifying rounds.
You guys prob. do not know this, but Steffen has a 52,7 this year, it was a 4x100MR, but her change over was 0,5 s. So do not write ze germans of just yet with 52 low and 53,0 and two 53 highs ;)
DeleteAmericans apparently still persist in believing they will win gold - even after last night's 100 final. Just too funny!
Deletehttp://bleacherreport.com/articles/1242217-us-olympic-swimming-trials-results-will-100-free-depth-result-in-relay-gold
Wow -that was sad. Interesting they did a hallelujah to another sad case - Nastia Liukin who brought out her loolly pink leotard trying to convince judges & herself she was some new hybrid - a ladynymph.
DeleteIf the Olympics serve one purpose in life -to clean out the cupboard - then it has some worth still.
Jack,
DeleteNot that the Australian ladies did not swim well in Shanghai, but their 4x100 free was not even their B team (I mean, Barratt swimming 4x100 free? lol).
this year, they might have four completely different swimmers swimming the 4x100 free.(Schlanger, Cate Campbell, Trickett, and the last spot between coutts/elmslie/bronte campbell).
Aswimfan,
DeleteI think you should question the inclusion of Merindah Dingjan more then Barratt as Bronte did earn the right to participate in the 400FR Relay at Australian trials. Merindah was actually the only 'questionable' inclusion as Coutts/Barratt went 1/3 at trials and Guehrer did a 54.2 (would have been 2nd at trials) in the 'second chance for Libby' meet. Coutts delivered, Barratt did okay Dingjan actually swam okay but Guehrer was .6 down on what statistically was expected.
Bjarnasson,
Britta did an amazing relay split that I am and was aware of in the Euros. But where on earth did you work out they could have a 52 low, 53.0 and 2 53 highs??? Schreiber is a great relay swimmer, no doubt about it but who is lead off in your prediction? All the times are ridiculous for a lead-off for each given lady. If we are talking well Britta did a 52.7 at Euros off a .5 takeover can we say well Halsall did a 53.0 at a universities meet off a .3 with no competition or Last year Lloyd did a 55.2 with .2/3 takeovers twice in 56+ individual shape so she can go 53.
Nope it just does not work out.
I am going on the facts which I accept never tell a whole story but they are afterall the facts. One good swim does not mean Britta is back to being a consistent 52. performer.
@Jack
DeleteLet's just say that I know something that you dont. Then we are the first to agree on something here :)
Btw, Hardy surprised me a bit in the 100 free. And NC is not done, she will be faster in London than she was in Shanghai, so now I feel that the US will be hunting for the gold in the womens 400FR.
Ahaha -It has be serous fun reading the US take on the M 100 free & subsequent relay.
ReplyDeleteI think the biggest danger for the Americans is on of them getting an Alzheimers attack & getting lost on route to the blocks. Seriously those guys are at the end stage of their era . It happens & note that that nobody born in the 90s finalled in either the 100 200 or maybe the 50.
Elsewhere -most non swimming fans would think there are only 2 men in the Us who are good swimmers. Swimswam fans are even wanting Lochte to get a spot on the 400m relay. He missed the 100 back & now he must push out someone else for the fly.
Like everything else in the USA today I say take it to SCOTUS. Maybe he can get in in the Commerce clause in that stopping him is against his commercial interests.
Ahhh America . Entertainment Central.Yes we love you :)
Underwhelmed by Missy's 54.15 in the 100free though it came shortly after 2.07.9 200back semi... I'm convinced Missy is not fully tapered for this meet. With no double Sunday, she should be able to at least go 2:05 200back... Good luck to Pelton!
ReplyDeleteWill you stop it? She is doing the best she can . This season she has not been so much ahead of everyone that she can cruise in the frees. A .15 is just a touch not something you can say -oh I just need 20sms & that is enough.
DeleteThis 100 would not have made the Australian relay.
Missy will end the olympic trials with a WR in the 200back.. The 2.04.81 by Coventry isnt that fast compared to the other suit standards and should be a piece of cake for Missy tonight.. Looking forward to seeing who gets the second spot between Beisel and Pelton... It will be most likely a 1-2 for USA in the 200back with Hocking a distant 3rd..
ReplyDeleteHey come on . Belinda swam faster than Missy's trials time in shanghai . She has a great chance to get as close this year , closer or even past Miss M.
DeleteCertainly she has better times than Biesel.
Show some respect.
On full taper Missy will be sub 53.00 100free and sub 1.54.00 200free in london. #watch this space!
ReplyDeletestfu -you are some sort of crazy. Leave the girl alone or you will be seen as some sort of Cyber stalker. Or worse.
DeleteMissy is a swimming sensation.. Let people enjoy her achievements... She's doing good things for the sport and she'l do well in London...
DeleteFFS . creep.
Deleteword from the deck is that missy is fully tapered. don't quote me on that as todd obviously wouldn't directly confirm this.
Deletemissy has admitted her free stroke feels 'off' at these trials and that her pacing needs more work notably in the front half.
this would explain her pedastrian times (for her) in both 100 & 200 frees. we can also safely deduce she wouldn't have hit a textile world best of 58.85 if not 100% tapered & rested.
US is putting themselves on a situation they will not win any gold on freestyle events, and have a chanche of not medalling at all!
ReplyDeleteSurprisingly, no world record from the American trials after so much hype about Dana Vollmer in the 100fly and Franklin in the 200back.... There'l be no excuses in london as everyone will be on "FULL TAPER!"
ReplyDeleteThe negativity towards the US team from some of you here is hilarious. Don't take it so personally, you're not even making any sense. We'll see what happens in London.
ReplyDeleteI think a lot of that may be a reaction to the obscenely partisan press you have in your country. I tuned into the NBC broadcast courtesy of the weblink posted here, and was shocked by how little mention or recognition was given by the 2 overexcited announcers to the international competition you guys will have to face in London. Like how the 200 fr was presented as a sole showdown between Phelps & Lochte for gold & silver, ignoring that there are quite a number of Europeans & East Asian notables who may well spoil the party! Or in both mens & womens fr relays...
DeleteThis seems like both an overstament and an unfair complaint. I put it to you that every countries' press is "obscenely partisan". The UK, Australian, German etc press coverage is certainly no exception. NBC is playing to people who watch swimming once every four years, they need to build hype to cover the immense investment they've made to broadcast the Olympics. Go look at Swimming World or any number of blogs if you want a more balanced American view of where the US team stands. I will say that if you expect both Phelps and Lochte to go only 1:45s in London, you might want to adjust your expectations a bit.
DeleteAccepted that every country's media will have a natural bias for their own, but NBC's swimming presenters really take this to an excessive extreme. Watched the USA trials for Athletics online as well, and the hosts for that are much more measured and objective in their running commentary (and much more informative compared to their swimming counterparts).
DeleteGo on youtube and compare the Eurosports broadcasts of the swimming from Beijing with the NBC announcers, and you'll see what I'm referring to. Even the BBC version, in spite of some deficiencies, is markedly fairer with some discussion of the various international personalities involved who have a chance of medaling that's conspicuous by its very absence from the NBC commentary...
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DeleteThe press in the UK, Australia and other nations are partisians as expected, however the difference arises when the US commentators fail to mention competition from other countries. The lack of information that viewers are given about athletes from abroad is far behind the European broadcasters. For example at British nationals after almost every race the commentators would reiterate that our athletes are at the top of the world rankings....But we were the first to have our trials and the French, Australian and US trials would shake it up and knock us down the rankings apart from a few swims (Adlington,Halsall,Tancock etc). That never happens with NBC...
US Women 50 Free Rankings TBD
ReplyDeleteUS Men 50 Free Rankings Jones #2, Adrian #3
US Women 100 Free Rankings Hardy #11, Franklin #20, Schmitt #9, Neal #27, Weir #19, Coughlin #32, Vollmer #24
US Men 100 Free Rankings Adrian #4, Jones #11, Grevers #17, Berens #28, Phelps #14, Feigen #12, Lezak #33, Lochte #36
US Women 200 Free Rankings Schmitt #1, Franklin #9, Vollmer #11, Perdue #23, Vreeland #24, Anderson #31 US Men 200 Free Rankings Phelps #2, Lochte #3, Berens #8, Dwyer #10, McLean #13, Houchin #14, Tarwater #17
US Women 400 Free Rankings Schmitt #3, Sutton #5
US Men 400 Free Rankings Vanderkaay #12, Dwyer #14
US Women 800 Free Rankings Ledecky #2, Zeigler #3
US Men 1500 Free Rankings TBD
US Women 100 Back Rankings Franklin #1, Bootsma #4
US Men 100 Back Rankings Grevers #1, Thoman #3
US Women 200 Back Rankings Franklin #1, Beisel #4
US Men 200 Back Rankings Lochte #2, Clary #3
US Women 100 Breast Rankings Soni #1, Larson #2
US Men 100 Breast Rankings Hansen #4, Shanteau #11
US Women 200 Breast Ranking Soni #1, Lawrence #3
US Men 200 Breast Rankings Weltz #5, Burckle #8
US Women 100 Fly Rankings Vollmer #1, Donahue #6
US Men 100 Fly Rankings Phelps #1, McGill #2
US Women 200 Fly Rankings Adams #6, Hersey #11
US Men 200 Fly Rankings Phelps #1, Clary #5
US Women 200 IM Rankings Leverenz #3, Kukors #6
US Men 200 IM Rankings Phelps #1, Lochte #2
US Women 400 IM Rankings Beisel #1, Leverenz #6
US Men 400 IM Rankings Lochte #1, Phelps #2
You have also to consider some guys did not needed to swim for real this year.. so you should count 2011 times also.. Hayden/Cielo will push 100 free down for the US.. 200 Free will also be pushed down.
DeleteSame for the Women Mid Long Distrance Free.
Same for some other styles (Man Breast, Women Back, just counting the most obvious)
I think in 400m free, Conor Dwyer is only have OST (B-standard) time on 2012 Olympics qualifying events (you know that US Trials is NOT 2012 Olympics qualifying events) with time 3:51.40.
DeleteDon't USA must change him with other swimmer, because USA can only send 2 swimmers per event with condition that those 2 swimmwers both have OQT (A-standard) time (3:48.92). I think 3rd rank, Michael Klueh, with 3:48.48 in 2011 can be a substitute for him.
Read the rules before posting, tomoseorang... :D
DeleteHahaha Anynomus, i read FINA Qualification Rules, point G Qualification Timeline, that says: "March 1, 2011 – June 18, 2012: Qualification period".
Deletehttp://www.fina.org/H2O/docs/events/london2012/sw/sw_qual.pdf
and i also read USA Swimming Selection Procedures that say: ".... standard set by FINA for that event during the applicable time period established by FINA (March 1, 2011-July 3,2012) in an approved FINA competition (competitions can be found at fina.org)
http://usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/df492bfa-d466-4535-9ef3-f0a3bdbd0561/2012_SOG_SWI_Pool_ATH.pdf
and the approved FINA competitions are:
http://www.fina.org/H2O/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1992&Itemid=859
FINA says 18 June 2012 is the end of qualification period, USA swimming says 3 July 2012.
Because this is FINA and IOC event, you should be adhered to FINA rules, isn't it?. Or USA Swimming got the exemptions from FINA regarding this matter? It might be.
Because as you see in this list of "OQT Qualified Swimmers (confirmed by NF/NOC) - per event" in men's 400m freestyle, you see Dwyer's name with time 3:47.83 from US Trials dated 25 JUNE 2012. :-) i think FINA just more than happy to bend the rules for the most powerful swimming country in the world :-)
http://www.fina.org/H2O/docs/events/london2012/sw/OQT_confirmed_perevent.pdf
ah i apologized for writing the wrong name, "Anonymous".
Deletei regret the mistake. :-)
Ahhhh FINA.... you still invite Maksym Shemberev in Men's 200m IM eventhough he is qualified as OQT in 400m IM!!!!
Deletehttp://www.fina.org/H2O/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2996&Itemid=1203
http://www.fina.org/H2O/docs/events/london2012/sw/OQT_confirmed_perevent.pdf
Are you forget the rule you make in point D: Qualification System?
"Swimmers who achieve the OQT in one or more individual events may also swim other events in which they have achieved an OST in the qualification period".
FINA should hire the new employees to tackle this matters. :-)
FINA, give Shemberev place as OST in 200m IM to someone else. He can compete in the event without that OST invitation!
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