tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250367211605373057.post811457739480338895..comments2024-02-16T08:24:02.879+00:00Comments on Speed Endurance Swimming Blog: Swimming at the 2012 Olympic Games - Day 4 Roundtable Part IISpeed Endurancehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14365062789141117207noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250367211605373057.post-44754120542735756902011-05-06T03:52:09.524+01:002011-05-06T03:52:09.524+01:00Oh, Ive just noticed that John might have made his...Oh, Ive just noticed that John might have made his prediction for the Shanghai WC, while the discussion is about 2012 Londonaswimfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250367211605373057.post-27581610792192125712011-05-06T00:09:27.503+01:002011-05-06T00:09:27.503+01:00London will require depth. Currently china is pret...London will require depth. Currently china is pretty mediocre in number 4-6. Its handy to look at the numbers of swimmers in the world top 25 ?59 & add up the ranks . Lowest numbers 1-4th fastest is for 2011. (I am assuming USA best but no times as yet). Russia & Australia =42 . China 67. <br /><br />Relays are about comparative strength & perception of the swimmers on the block. China 5&6 are very weak so far whereas Russia & Aust 4-6 are pretty close. This also allows a last minute switch even if no1 & 2 are off form .Aust dropped national champ Monk in Beijing to gain Bronze . (a good result for that no stars team ).<br /><br />I would also look at the ranks of 100 mtr guys who sense they wont get a 400 relay spot . Time to train up.Russia & australia are strong here whereas china is currently weak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250367211605373057.post-79470480706232317902011-05-04T13:09:46.357+01:002011-05-04T13:09:46.357+01:00john26,
you forgot that australian combined time ...john26,<br /><br />you forgot that australian combined time is without ian thorpe.<br />thorpe could easily take off 3 seconds of the combined time.aswimfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250367211605373057.post-65939957775133237632011-04-28T20:14:53.671+01:002011-04-28T20:14:53.671+01:00If you subtract 2 seconds for relay starts off the...If you subtract 2 seconds for relay starts off the flat starts of top 4 finishers from Russian, Chinese and Australian trials, the times are:<br /><br />Chinese 7:07.02<br />Russian 7:07.43<br />Australia 7:08.64.<br /><br />Now, the Chinese and Russians typically drop humongous times going into WC, that's how they usually lie under the radar until the last moment (I remember in 09, American had 5 of the top 6 200m freestylers and someone was quoted saying America could put any four of time in any order for gold-- but was inevitably challenged by Russia). On the other hand Australians I feel like want to "prove themselves" and usually do not drop as much time, if at all.<br /><br />That said, I don't see Australia dropping the time necessary to knock either of the above teams off the podium. I think the difference between the US and rus/chn is about the same as rus/chn to Australia.<br /><br />I agree with you Tom, China is the ultimate dark horse in this race. They have the firepower to put together a 702 on this relay, and while the russians are good, I think China is the only team -capable- of taking down the US, since as of yet, the Russian team is good, but not -spectacular-.<br /><br />I think its possible that the US could win by as much as 3 seconds this summer, but also, like in Rome when all the tapering is said and done, there could be less than a second in it between the top 3.john26noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250367211605373057.post-48591983400967841332011-04-28T18:37:55.389+01:002011-04-28T18:37:55.389+01:00Anonymous-was very recently announced that Dagny w...Anonymous-was very recently announced that Dagny would be headed to Florida (specifically, in a Brett Fraser interview).Braden K.http://www.theswimmerscircle.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250367211605373057.post-13657350108112609622011-04-28T15:17:37.829+01:002011-04-28T15:17:37.829+01:00When did Dagny Knutson leave Fast and is she train...When did Dagny Knutson leave Fast and is she training with the Gator Swim club?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1250367211605373057.post-19188448546823294192011-04-28T14:49:21.561+01:002011-04-28T14:49:21.561+01:00I agree with all the predictions. The mens 200 bre...I agree with all the predictions. The mens 200 breast and 800 FR is definitely one of the most predictable events. I dont think we'll see much changes in the next years.<br />The japanese guys for 2 medals, and Gyurta for the third one.<br /><br />The 800FR : USA - Australia (Thorpe effect will force the other aussie guys to step up a notch) - Russia.<br /><br />Lack of experience at the world stage for the chinese guys will cost them bronze.aswimfannoreply@blogger.com